Warning: Some SPOILERS lie ahead for Evil season 4!

Even the most skeptical can have their beliefs rocked, as Dr. Boggs discovers in Evil season 4. Played by Kurt Fuller (Psych, Supernatural), Dr. Kurt Boggs was introduced in the horror drama as the therapist to Katja Herbers’ Kristen Bouchard, often challenging her encounters with the purported supernatural cases of her job. As the show progresses, Boggs increasingly finds himself entangled in Kristen’s personal life, including her rival, Dr. Leland Townsend, introducing him to the world of the demonic and helping him become possessed for a time to help break free of his writer’s block.

In Evil season 4, Dr. Boggs has largely separated himself from Kristen and Leland after breaking free of his possession, though is turned to by her and Mike Colter’s David Acosta for help in identifying one of his patients David is having visions of killing his wife and kids. At the same time, Boggs is attempting to finish writing his next book, and is able to go viral thanks to Kristen’s daughters turning his novel into an online picture book. With the help of episode 6’s Muse, Boggs is able to break his writer’s block, though whether it proves to be a positive influence on him remains to be seen.

Alongside Herbers, Colter and Fuller, the ensemble Evil season 4 cast sees the returns of Aasif Mandvi, Marti Matulis, Brooklyn Shuck, Skylar Gray, Maddy Crocco, Dalya Knapp, Christine Lahti, Michael Emerson and Andrea Martin, while also introducing Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3‘s Chukwudi Iwuji as David’s new Entity handler, Father Dominic Kabiru. Even as the show builds towards its impending series finale, creators Robert and Michelle King continue to deliver unique cases, darkly hilarious moments and meaningful character development.

With the final season a little more than halfway completed, Screen Rant interviewed Kurt Fuller to discuss Evil season 4, why he is saddened to be leaving behind the show, his hopes for it to continue elsewhere, what to expect from Dr. Boggs’ final arc, as well as the delays facing Psych 4 and his thoughts on a potential Ghostbusters franchise return.

Fuller Feels “There’s Nothing Tougher” Than A Show Ending (But Says Evil‘s Is “So Good“)

Throughout its four-season run, Evil stands out as one of the rare shows in which critical reception not only remained high, but actually rose with each new chapter, with both seasons 3 and 4 maintaining a perfect 100% approval rating from critics on Rotten Tomatoes. Even still, the show is gearing up to come to an end after Paramount+ elected not to renew it for season 5, and Fuller expresses feeling saddened by the news, particularly since the show is “just killing it“:

Kurt Fuller: Well, there’s nothing tougher than a show you love ending, number one. All actors want security, because, I mean, if you look at my IMDB page, you see I’ve done a lot of things, which is a lot of endings. And this one, it was so good. The acting and writing and the people involved were on such a high level, and we were all so close. The show is kicking so much a– right now. It’s just killing it, and I think this is the best season of the show, season 4. So, for all those reasons, it really hurts, to be honest. It really hurts, but I’m trying to be an adult.

With co-star Katja Herbers currently campaigning for the show to continue elsewhere, particularly since it has become a streaming success on Netflix, Fuller also acknowledges being keen on seeing this expansion, though promises the show closes out “really well“:

Kurt Fuller: The last four episodes are really good, and certainly, the writing is impeccable, so the show closes out really well. But it doesn’t have to. I’m sure the Kings were planning on more, and we were planning on more. It was a bit of a surprise when we got the word. But when you see what’s happening with not just Paramount, but all streaming, it sort of makes sense. Money and where you put your resources, they don’t need doubles, they need home runs. And they don’t even need homeruns, they need grand slams. But since it’s gone on Netflix, which has raised so much interest in the show, and not only that, but now on Paramount+, it’s one of the top shows on Paramount+ now, where it wasn’t ever before. It sort of would make sense to do more, but I don’t know.

Streaming is much different than network, you’re not selling commercial time, you’re selling subscriptions. And once you have a bunch of shows, maybe making more doesn’t really add up to that same amount of money in subscriptions. I don’t know how it works. But I would think it could make money for someone. But it’s very hard, other places don’t want something that somebody else has let go, it’s just the psychology of it. It’s very hard for a show to keep going once it’s been stopped. It happens every once in a while, but it usually doesn’t, in my experience.

Boggs “Really Gets Tested” In The Final Episodes Of Evil Season 4

While season 3 saw his character pushed to the brink by becoming possessed, Fuller indicates that the final episodes of Evil season 4 will truly be a major tester for Boggs and his desire not to “get caught in the net” of the supernatural and demonic that Kristen, David and Ben are frequently involved in. In particular, the star teases that episode 10 “ups the ante” for Boggs, in which he and Christine Lahti’s Sheryl will find themselves attacked by an unspecified demon:

Kurt Fuller: I loved the possession storyline, obviously. It was really good. When you’re not a central character, and they spend a lot of time on you, then, the next season, they do it for somebody else, that’s the way the shows are, and I’m very happy to be a part of just any contribution I can make to any episode, because I think season 4 is fantastic. But it’s sort of towards the end of season 4 where Boggs really gets tested, and really kicks into gear, and then in the last four, it continues. The arc of my character sort of ends. Episode 10 ups the ante, and then it continues on to the end of the show, which I found very satisfying. Boggs almost gets amnesia, these things happen, and he just goes on with his practice. But the interesting thing about anybody involved with those three — Kristen, Ben, and David — they get caught in the net, they get caught in the web of metaphysical, diabolical horror.

And Boggs, because Kristen was his patient, he keeps getting caught in that net. It keeps happening. I think Boggs would like it if his life was a little less exciting. He doesn’t do well, these things really throw him. He had a nice ivory tower teaching, doing therapy, having his patience, and now, his character is being tested, his courage is being tested. His sense of the world is being tested, certainly, in 10, when the demon attacks he and Sheryl. Boggs doesn’t need this, he doesn’t do well with this stuff. He desperately doesn’t want to believe in demons. He’s a therapist, he believes in the real world, so it’s been very tough for him, anytime any of these things happens. It really rocks his world, and he tries desperately to compartmentalize it. But ultimately, I will tell you, he’s not able to. But he really likes to forget about it, he sort of goes back to normal, and then something else happens, and he’s thrown back into the volcano.

Fuller also acknowledges that the Muse he becomes influenced by in episode 6 will have an impact on him going into the remaining episodes, though as to how it affected his writer’s block, he believes that Boggs won’t attribute it to anything beyond his own breakthrough:

Kurt Fuller: Oh, he likes the spotlight, he wants to be the Albert Einstein of therapy, definitely. He wants to be on magazine covers — Psychology Today, you know, whatever therapy magazine, he wants that, but he doesn’t want to be part of this. Demons and angels and ghosts. He has no desire to be a part of that, that shakes his whole sort of educational foundation. Everything that he has based his life and his practice on is that there’s a psychological answer to every problem. And it ain’t demons, okay? They don’t exist for Boggs, until he sees one, and then he’s completely screwed up. Then, he has to come up with some kind of elaborate reason why that wasn’t a demon. It’s very hard on him, it’s very hard on him. [Chuckles]

Oh, I think he felt something, but he gave himself credit for it. And, you know, you’re right, by the way, this whole thing with Boggs and the writing, and all the stuff in season 3, that’s just a metaphor for all these writers who have had writer’s block writing scripts to get to write about writer’s block and what they would do to not have writer’s block through Boggs, which is kind of great. I sort of love that. But, whenever Boggs puts his hands on that computer, he freezes up. In season 3, I think he knew what the hell was going on, but he was going with it, because he was desperate to write. I think this time, that Muse was behind him. You didn’t see any hand or anything. I think he felt like he had his own personal breakthrough there.

Fuller Would Love To Return For The Next Ghostbusters Movie

While he has enjoyed a storied career in both film and television, one of Fuller’s first major roles was that of mayor’s assistant Jack Hardemeyer in Ghostbusters II, who played a similar role to William Atherton’s Walter Peck by trying to discredit the titular group. With Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire bringing the franchise back to New York, Fuller says he was not asked back for the 2024 sequel, but remains hopeful that he will be brought back for a potential third movie:

Kurt Fuller: Absolutely, I would. Harold Ramis got my career going. I was selling real estate and doing theater until Harold Ramis came to see a play I was in, and I remain good friends with his widow, Erica. Ghostbusters 1 is the gold standard, and I think that maybe they’ll go to Ghostbusters 2 for some cameos, I’m hoping, for the next one. I would be happy to.

Ghostbusters 2 was responsible for me being an actor. It got me going, and I would do anything they asked. For no money. I had lunch with Jason and Erica right before the first one that he did was announced, and what a nice kid he is. I really liked him. I would love it. I’m a much different actor than I was in those days. Then, I was scared out of my wits working with those people. And now, I would be A-okay.

Psych 4‘s Script Is Complete (Though Fuller Says There’s One Major Speedbump)

Another of Fuller’s iconic roles is that of off-beat coroner Woody Strode in Psych, which he carried over into all three movie continuations of the mystery comedy show. While Psych 4 remains in a state of development limbo, Fuller confirms that the script is complete, having heard from his co-star Maggie Lawson that “it’s hilarious“, but indicates that Peacock’s finances are currently the main thing holding the streamer back from proceeding with the fourth movie:

Kurt Fuller: I’ve heard the script is done, I’ve heard it’s hilarious. Maggie Lawson, we talk almost every day, and she’s read it. I think it was about to be done, and then all the strikes happened. Everybody was reevaluating streaming, and I think the money wasn’t there at the end of last year. I don’t know whether Peacock or Universal are gonna go in that direction anymore. I don’t know. I think it was very close to being done and starting, and then at the last minute, it sort of surprised everybody when they said, “You know, we can’t do it now. We’re out of money”.

We just did a convention in Chicago. All of us got together, which was unbelievable, and the enthusiasm was unbelievable. So we’ll see, you just don’t know. It’s just like Evil. I mean, my god, the enthusiasm has never been greater for Evil now. So, you know, show business is weird, it changes day to day, and takes huge swings, so you just never know. Kurt Fuller: They’ve had success with all the Psych movies, I know the numbers. And I hope that CBS sees how well Evil is doing and says, “Hey, we can make some more.” You know, it couldn’t hurt. It would only make people happy.

About Evil Season 4

In Evil season 4, Kristen, David, and Ben continue to assess cases that involve wayward technology, possessed pigs, demonic oppression and infestation, a dance muse conjured by alleged witches, and an evil relic. Throughout, Leland attempts to lure Kristen into raising a baby Antichrist who was conceived with her ovum. David is recruited by the Vatican’s secret service to “remote view”, a paranormal ability to see the unseen in order to detect evil. Ben is hit by an ion beam, causing him to see visions of a taunting jinn until he discovers an unusual solution to banish it. Finally, all three realize they only have a few weeks left to assess cases because the parish has decided to disband the team due to a lack of funds. This culminates in one last confrontation with Leland and the 60 families that make up Evil in the modern world.

Check out our previous Evil season 4 interview with Katja Herbers, Mike Colter and Aasif Mandvi!

New episodes of Evil season 4 air Thursdays on Paramount+.